Eventually, I was able to get settled in to seat 2K, a proper window seat in the staggered seats configuration Turkish uses on their newer planes (though they have this weird wing that blocks a lot of the window view, especially on the A350 -- it's nice to have something padded to lean against, but that's not all that important in a modern flat-bed business class seat, and I would have preferred a better view out the window). The business class interior on these planes looks quite nice, even if I'm not a huge fan of the A350's interior design when compared to Boeing products.
This was my first flight on a plane with exterior cameras available on the IFE screens, something North American and European airlines generally skip for some reason. I'm very curious why the gate we were at has an A380 marking on the lead-in line, since Seatac is very much not A380 compatible!
We left about half an hour late, having sat at the gate for a very long time after boarding had finished for no apparent reason (perhaps something to do with there being two Turkish flights leaving at the same time). That meant it was completely dark out, which the cameras didn't handle all that well, but they're still super cool!
I live down there somewhere! Unfortunately, I wasn't on the correct side of the plane to see downtown, but the camera made up for it somewhat. (Also unfortunately, the screens are super reflective, hence the awkward crop to get rid of my reflection.)
The A350 has these cool LCD screens to show you what you are and aren't allowed to do at any given time. Unfortunately, they have one major flaw -- they're quite bright, and when the rest of the lights are all turned off and you're trying to sleep, they're a bit annoying.
I spent the first bit of the flight playing some Mini Metro and OpenTTD on the refurbished Chromebook (basically an overgrown Android tablet, down to the Snapdragon CPU, that can also run Linux software... poorly) between bits of the dinner service. I was also able to use the wifi (free for business class passengers, which is a lot better than most airlines). The Chromebook's screen is even more annoyingly reflective than the IFE screen, but at least it was reflecting the ceiling rather than my face!
Turkish is known for impressive food service, and I would definitely agree based on my flights with them! This is far from everything (there were a few rounds of starters, plus dessert afterwards, and breakfast at the end of the flight), but I'm not an airline reviewer, so I didn't feel like taking pictures of every single thing I ate. I particularly love the salt and pepper shakers! I'm sure the crew was wondering why I was insisting on drinking water rather than anything from the whole separate liquor menu, but that's just who I am.
After dinner, I spent most of the flight sleeping, or at least attempting to. In addition to the annoyingly bright "no smoking" sign above, I didn't sleep all that well because Turkish only gives you one small, thin pillow, similar to what some airlines give out in economy. I'm aware of how whiny this sounds, but with all the stuff you get in business class these days -- Turkish even puts mattress pads on each seat and gives out multiple blankets -- I'm surprised they don't have better pillows. When I woke up, I spent most of my time looking out through the cameras, and then out the windows themselves once we finally got below the clouds that were over all of Europe and there was actually stuff to see. Here's a view over the southwestern part of Istanbul, with the old airport still quite visible, basically just sitting there dormant.
After a rather firm landing and a lengthy taxi, I was finally in Istanbul, right at sunset. (12 hours of flying plus 11 time zones means it was basically an entire day after I left!) At least in terms of time zones, this is the furthest east, and therefore the furthest from home, I've ever been! The Istanbul airport is really cool, but after not getting much sleep on that very long flight, I was absolutely exhausted and just wanted to head to the lounge and sit around for a while. I was glad to find that I didn't have to go through security between my flights like I had thought I would need to!
So that's what I did. The lounge here is a bit odd, just sitting on the mezzanine level, completely open to the mall-like space below. I was happy to be able to get a shower in the lounge, though it took me quite a while to figure out how that worked since there were absolutely no signs pointing it out (if I hadn't read reviews of this lounge beforehand, I would have had no idea there even were showers available). No, I didn't take pictures of that -- you know how I feel about restroom pictures!
I got a more comprehensive look at the airport on my trip back, but it does look pretty cool at night! I especially like all the faux-neon Ramadan decorations.
The flight on to Rome was just a boring A321, and I was absolutely exhausted at this point, so I didn't take a lot of pictures. I was pretty impressed by the dinner they fed us on this short (2-hour) flight, so I got a picture of that at least! It wasn't anything all that special compared to the long-haul food, but it was still quite good for airplane food.
I was in row 2 again on this flight (and on all of my flights on this trip, actually). I've never sat this close to the front of the plane before, and I thought it was neat how my seat lined right up with the jetbridge before they pulled it up to the plane!
I didn't get any pictures of the arrivals area at Fiumicino (it isn't very interesting), but I do have a funny story to leave this on. Upon getting to the passport control line (with hardly anyone in front of me -- the airport isn't very busy at 10 at night), I was directed into a lane where the border guard was in the middle of a conversation (in Italian, of course) on his cell phone. I figured I would just wait until he was done, but no, he just took my passport, scanned and stamped it, and tossed it back at me, before shooing me off without having ever said a word or seemingly paying attention to anything other than his phone call. I know Italian border guards are normally pretty lax, but that's a bit nuts even by their standards!
Anyway, tomorrow I'll get to what was probably the thing I was most excited for on this trip!
Neat stuff! Those intercontinental first/business class seats these days are certainly very interesting and relaxing looking compared to the coach seats. My first class experiences are limited to domestic 737s so they aren't anything special aside from having extra leg room. In fact, I was in first class coming back from PDX last year and I can assure you that the Turkish A321 first class seat looks a lot nicer than the United one on a somewhat aged non-ER 737-900!
ReplyDeleteThe plane exterior cameras are pretty neat. I suspect the reason why US airlines don't use it is because of the American Airlines Flight 191 DC-10 crash at ORD in 1979. That was the one where improper servicing techniques led to the engine coming off the plane during takeoff and it ripped part of the wing causing hydraulic loss. That plane was equipped with new technology at the time where a camera on the outside of the plane was used to provide video in the plane for the passengers through the projection screens of the takeoff and other events. Given the problems the plane had on takeoff, the passengers likely saw their pending death being shown on the screens in the plane and American got a lot of negative publicity for it so the video feed was removed from the other planes that had it after the crash (obviously, the DC-10s in general were grounded for a while). I'm sure the passengers knew they were going to crash anyway given that the plane turned onto it's side right after rotation, but perhaps seeing the pending crash via video was just insult to injury.
IST looks pretty fancy! I'm not surprised about that. My mother flew Turkish when taking a vacation in Turkey a few years ago and said IST was nice. Granted, she's also been to DXB and I don't think IST is quite up to those standards, but DXB is really a totally different world, lol.
Those meals look a lot nicer than the first class cheeseburger meal I got on United last year when returning from PDX. This isn't my photo, but it looked the same. The picture actually makes it look better than how it tasted...which is saying a lot I think, lol. Link: https://viewfromthewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/burger-and-fries.jpg
At least the A350 has traditional windows I suppose. I think the 787 has those strange windows without shades and such. I don't know, the newest widebodies I've been on are 777s, 767s, A330s, and 747-400s so I have not been on these newer style planes.
Yeah, the long-haul business class seats I got on this trip were extremely nice -- the short-haul A321 seats were plenty comfortable too, especially for a 2-hour flight, but they weren't anything special, and I'm certainly not a big fan of the armrest IFE screens. (They can't be out during takeoff and landing, when it would be particularly nice to have the moving map out, and they don't work very well during meal service either, which took up a large portion of the short flights!) I'm sure they were a lot better than United's old 737 domestic first class seats, though -- I've heard tons of bad things about those seats! I haven't flown United in probably close to 20 years, but I wouldn't mind trying them again, especially once they get more of their short-haul fleet updated.
DeleteI really liked IST! I know a lot of people complain about the long walks, but I didn't think it was particularly bad in that regard, especially since there are tons of moving walkways (except in the main terminal area connecting the concourses, for some reason). DXB has always seemed a little overhyped to me, but I'd still like to visit Dubai some day.
Turkish is known for their food, and I was fairly impressed -- though I don't have any other modern business class experience to compare it with!
I didn't really mind the dimming windows on the 787. It was easier to see around the seat "wing" with them (either due to their larger size or just because they were better positioned relative to the seat, I'm not sure) and it's cool to be able to still kind of see through them without having it completely bright. This trip was my first time on the A350 and the 787, which was a big part of why I was so excited for the flights!